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Poor DNC Flash leads to questions

Sat Mar 20, 2004 at 05:18:37 PM PDT

(I agree with all of this -- kos)

There have been a number of posts here today about the new Flash animation "ad" posted at the DNC website.

It is worse than amateurish.  It is embarrassing and richly deserving of the derision it has received here and on national political programs.

And it points to larger issues our Party has with comminications strategies, messaging/themes, and dissemination of our key messaging.

I posted this diary yesterday on the topic of developing "headline" themes for the Kerry campaign and methods for disseminating those themes into our marketplace of voters.

There were many great ideas floated by DKos denizens, and should the subject be given front page status (since the diaries just go whizzing by), I am sure we would generate dozens more great ideas for the DNC.

As noted in that diary, Rove and Gillespie have done an excellent job of disseminating their key talking points for any given day/week and making suer they have Party mouthpieces in place to drive those key poinst home... over and over and over.

This week's national security/defense attack on Kerry was carried out by Bush in a speech, Cheney in a speech, Rumsfeld on the Sunday morning circuit, Rice on the network news, Hannity and Limbaugh from their media pulpits, in print and and electronic media by mouthpieces like David Brooks (who appeared on both NPR and The News Hour in addition to his Times column), and other sources.  They all were "on message" and on point.  It was a coordinated attack, executed strongly.

We seem to get little or no such coordination out of our Party leadership and/or the Kerry campaign.  And that should be worrisome to us all.

Then, today, we get e-mails from the DNC touting that pathetic, new Flash.  How embarrassing.  Our candidate spends the week getting lambasted and we come up with that.

While Terry McAuliffe may be a fundraiser extraordinaire, he has proven less adept at communications strategy and execution (along the lines of Rove and Gillespie).

And after I had look at that lame Flash, I was angry... angry because I started thinking, is this what our contributions to the DNC are buying?  Garbage like this?

So, acting on a tip from Drew posted in another diary on the new Flash, I did a little digging.

The Flash was produced by a company called The Chameleon Group.  Their website is horrible.  And, oddly, it never mentions anywhere on the site the company's key personnel.  That's odd for an advertising/marketing firm.  (Note: I am in the advertising and marketing business and have been for 20 years, the last 13 years running my own company with a partner.)

A further look into The Chameleon Group's website reveals some godawful, lame copy (on top of the pathetic, non-design of the website), and a hint that The Chamelseon Group isn't really an advertising firm at all, at least in the classic sense of having designers and/or writers on staff.

Their philospohy page includes the following paragraph:

At Chameleon we believe that every project is unique. That is why we custom build teams for each of our clients initiatives. The teams consist of individuals and small companies that are carefully selected to satisfy the requirements of each particular assignment.

In other words, they're not an actual ad/marketing firm.  Their front page states:

Chameleon is a consortium of individuals and companies assembled for the express purpose of creating outstanding integrated communication solutions.

The phone number they have on their contact page (212.695.4644) when run through the reverse directory is listed to a different address than the address they list on their contact page.

(519 8th Ave Fl 22, New York in the reverse directory and in a whois search, and 430 West 34th Street, Suite 17D, New York on their website contact page.)

I guess my question is, why isn't the DNC hiring a professional firm and not some "consortium" of who knows what to do our marketing?

Ultimately, their spending our donations on creating these things.  What did that Flash cost?  And why was it awarded to The Chameleon Group?

When shoddy work is presented, we, as the Democrats who help fund the organization to pay for that shoddy work, deserve answers.

And we certainly deserve better work.

And on the subject of major themes and inititiaives and the coordination of the dissemination of those themes, we seem to need a better plan.

We're getting thumped in the communication war that is part of this campaign.

We need to do better if we expect to take back the White House in November.

Add your thoughts/comments/suggestions here.

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  •  Pardon the spelling/typing errors... (4.00 / 54)

    I am on my way you and rushed this piece a bit...
  •  You a Cajun? (none / 0)

    Thought you were from Chicago?

    Everybody dies alone.

    by Armando on Fri Mar 19, 2004 at 09:44:02 PM PDT

  •  Outstanding diary (3.91 / 12)

    This is absolutely of the first importance.  Thanks for digging up what you could about the unprofessional state of Democratic communications.

    This has to be fixed now.

    Is Chameleon (what a name!) a front for some friends of some insiders?  Is McAuliffe responsible for hiring them? How much have they received to date?

    I'll be holding contributions pending answers.

     

  •  Here is shame: (4.00 / 8)

    over two days I am relieved that CNN runs a bit of ours but basically presents a verbal synopsis it to the audience.  They let the RNC ad run in its entirety.

    I'll be blunt: in 01 and 02 I would think about going into a GE with these bozos, and cringe.  I always felt the Democratic platform and a half decent candidate could conceivably win against BushCo, he always was very odd and both he and Rove make mistakes right along with their "wins" (or steals).
    But I always worried about making it with the lumps in charge on our side.  Damn.
    That Chameleon website (thanks Drew and Bob Johnson) has me so angry I am strangely calm, never a good sign.

    •  pathetic dnc flash ad (4.00 / 2)

      I have written the DNC, asking how they could run such crude, unspeakably lame "animation" when moveon is flooded with first class propaganda works from a thousand different hands, and why would I donate directly to "the party" if this is the kind of shit I can expect.

      if we win it will be in spite of "the party"...

      "The mint jelly's attacking!" --Tom Servo

      by Eloise Hellspawn on Sat Mar 20, 2004 at 08:02:40 PM PDT

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  •  Ugh (4.00 / 16)

    Your evaluation was too kind. The stuff I've seen on the web (Take Back the Media comes to mind) has been infinitely more professional and more evocative. This ad is just plain stupid and boring.

    The rest of your analysis is excellent. I think Kerry has positioned himself on the issues beautifully, but if he doesn't get that message out, we're gonna get crushed.

    My worry (and my reason for supporting Dean) was that Kerry and the party would run a 2000-quality campaign again, and it looks like my worst fears are coming true.

    I have my fears, but they do not have me - Peter Gabriel

    by badger on Fri Mar 19, 2004 at 09:58:36 PM PDT

    •  yes (4.00 / 2)

      Your worry is mine as well.  When I first saw this add, it made me queasy.  I thought the DNC was finally beginning to treat the internet community as more than a 3 year old they simply had to tolerate, but this ad shows they still don't get it at all.  Kerry and the DNC need to get on the ball- surely some of Dean's people are available for actually managing internet relations with some semblance of aptitude.  We have the message- someone just needs to teach them how to get it across (or even half of it, or a quarter of it...)

      But thank you to kos for bringing this to the main page- hopefully they'll be more likely to listen (and take it down as soon as humanly possible).

    •  One reason for hope (4.00 / 2)

      This DNC add sucked, but at least the Kerry Campaign ads have been good, especially "Keep Our Word."  (= the second one from the top in the right column).

      It's not very Patriotic of me, but IMHO the people in charge of the DNC are idiots, and I remain to be convinced that they actually want to win.  Look at the date they scheduled the convention for--guaranteeing that no matter how much we raise there will be 1.5 months between the conventions were we'll be unable to effectively reply to the Bush Slime Machine.

      •  Another reason for hope (4.00 / 4)

        The MoveOn ad showing the factory worker coming home late at night and worrying about Bush policies, especially the attack on overtime pay. I've seen it a number of times on the local news in Detroit. It ought to be running in every industrial state, especially Ohio.

        John McCain's Straight Talk Express runs on fossil fuels.

        by Dump Terry McAuliffe on Sat Mar 20, 2004 at 09:10:01 PM PDT

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        •  That's a brilliant ad (none / 0)

          The "Worker" ad from MoveOn is, hands down, the best ad of this campaign season thus far.  

          It tells a compelling story that a key voting population can relate to, it uses emotionally powerful symbols without knocking the audience over the head with them, it doesn't pander, and it ends with a punch.  Production values are excellent.  Every detail works.  (I especially like the time on the clock.)  

          There is so much creative talent on our side.  It's a SIN for the DNC to use our money for this less-than-mediocre crap.

          •  I give my money to Moveon (none / 0)

            The only time they've let me down so far was when they apologised for the Hitler ad. I wish instead they would have actually apologised to the family of Hitler for the comparison. Bush's corporate blitzkrieg and the resulting environmental impact will kill millions the world over and make slaves of the rest. George Bush is nothing more than Hitler if Hitler had won.

            Now, people had lost their fear. From that moment I knew we would win. - Oscar Olivera

            by Josh Prophet on Sun Mar 21, 2004 at 01:31:42 AM PDT

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      •  Until McAuliffe shows me.. (3.50 / 2)

        ..that he wants to win, I won't believe that he really does.

        When the Big Dog barks, Terry wags his tail..

        Al Gore is still my president

        by Sidhe on Sat Mar 20, 2004 at 10:25:18 PM PDT

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    •  I can't help (none / 1)

      but echo your concerns.  I also wrote an email to the DNC as soon as I saw the movie, telling them how awful it was.  It's amazing to me that given the quality of what MoveOn, Kerry, etc. have done, that they would put out something this shoddy and embarrassing.  Can they really be that clueless?  I guess they can, sadly enough.

      I gave them some money when Kos was having his fundraiser, but I'm not going to give them any more unless they can persuade me they're not going to repeat this kind of stupidity.

      We seek not rest but transformation. - Marge Piercy

      by Leslie in CA on Sun Mar 21, 2004 at 12:35:02 AM PDT

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  •  The drawing (4.00 / 2)

    of the guy speaking from the White House looks a lot more like Kucinich than Bush.



    The 4th Amendment: It's not just for dope dealers anymore.

    by ben masel on Fri Mar 19, 2004 at 10:09:11 PM PDT

  •  Great diary Bob (4.00 / 2)

    I really question some of the resource decisions our so-called leaders make. I just read an article on CNN about how the Repubs are spending millions on voter registration efforts in key states (going to churches, car racces, etc. where their 'natural' constituency frequents). And we're spending money on this crap? Even if the ads themselves were low-cost, someone had to spend the time, effort, etc. reviewing & vetting them, etc. Do we really need entertainment for our own people who visit our own web site?

    No wonder we lose...

  •  Chameleon Group (4.00 / 5)

    Where Terry McAuliffe morphs into Steve McMahon?
  •  My guess - not gonna change this year (3.85 / 7)

    I guess my question is, why isn't the DNC hiring a professional firm and not some "consortium" of who knows what to do our marketing?

    Maybe all the "good ones" are already under contract with the RNC?  (We can't expect them to look beyond the DC fishpond for talent can we?)  Or maybe winning is only an afterthought for the DNC?  Or is it incompetent by design?  

    What FDR giveth; GWB taketh away.

    by Marie on Fri Mar 19, 2004 at 10:54:17 PM PDT

    •  Then have volunteers do it (4.00 / 4)

      I've seen a lot of stuff on web that's way better - even some that's way better than what the GOoPers are doing. Might need to be toned down a little for prime time, but there are people who can do this stuff well that are available for the asking.

      moveon.org has much better stuff than this.

      I have my fears, but they do not have me - Peter Gabriel

      by badger on Fri Mar 19, 2004 at 11:03:08 PM PDT

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    •  Tip of the berg (3.85 / 7)

      The pointless and embarrassing Flash animation is symptomatic of a larger problem: there is no evidence of a coherent media strategy at the DNC.  Where is the evidence that they are hungry to win?.

      It seems that Kennedy wants to win this year.  He's close to the Kerry campaign.  Maybe he needs to kick some butt.  

      •  Dean campaign flashbacks? (4.00 / 9)

        The pointless and embarrassing Flash animation [Dean advertisement] is symptomatic of a larger problem: there is no evidence of a coherent media strategy at the DNC [Dean campaign].

        This is scary deja vu shit for me.  I feel like I yelled, pulled my hair out, paced the floor, screeched, made phone calls, wrote emails, wrote on blogs, etc., and ultimately was completely powerless as the Dean campaign dug its own grave with unprofessional ads and a poor (sometimes seemingly nonexistent) media strategy.  Now it feels like it's happening al over again.

        Where was the DNC coordinated messaging with surrogates to take the place of Kerry while he's on vacation?

        What is the MESSAGE?????

        Where are the crack response teams to play up the disintegration of Bush's coalition of the billing?

        Why are we not working with the most creative and talented teams of Democrats in the media, including Hollywood folks?

        but my most important question:

        How can we have any clue that we are being heard???  When this happened with the Dean campaign, writing about it on blogs achieved nothing.  Writing to the campaign to say I was withholding donations did nothing.

        What can we do that will ensure that they actually listen?

    •  There are hundreds of professional ad firms... (3.80 / 5)

      ... out there who would probably love to work for the DNC.  And there are certainly plenty of great freelancers with a Democratic bent who would love to help out.

      There really is no excuse for crap like that.

      I think back to some of the stuff that was created for Dean by supporters... it was strong and powerful and very well done.

      There are probably plenty of people here on dkos who could create some excellent pieces for the DNC website.

      •  That's what I would think -- (none / 1)

        therefore the failure of the DNC to employ some of these seems inexplicable.  Unless ...

        What FDR giveth; GWB taketh away.

        by Marie on Sat Mar 20, 2004 at 02:19:02 AM PDT

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        •  Hillary in `08! (none / 0)

          Heh-heh...
          •  ssh - let's not let (none / 1)

            others accuse us of wearing tin foil hats because they aren't swift enough to connect the dots.

            What FDR giveth; GWB taketh away.

            by Marie on Sat Mar 20, 2004 at 02:26:06 AM PDT

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            •  As I read this I am (4.00 / 6)

              listening to Howard's speech from Seattle yesterday.  All the plans (even if in a sort of adult incubancy) to free up congressional elections, make the money move and work better, connect people to the politicians they support.  Make it interactive, keep it interactive, hell why not.  Talking about politicans getting to DC then "getting cosy and the Democratic party lying down and dying...Never Again!!".  Out of the ball park Howard!

              And, as pissed some off, yes he calls out Reagan (hell why not!).

              Really glad he came my way.....;-)

              Thanks for the thread Bob.  It really matters.  Whether the party cares to bother to get the best, work to win, or not.  It still matters.  04 is when we know who cares about this country, and who does not.

      •  With 100 million dollars... (none / 0)

        do you think it's possible that Bushco placed all the "professional" political ad firms on retainer so the Dems would only have amateurs to choose from. I'm from NY, I've witnessed this tactic performed year after year by George Steinbrenner. I'm sure Unka Karl put out the word that if they did one radio spot for the Dems they wouldn't see a penny from the Thugs

        Now, people had lost their fear. From that moment I knew we would win. - Oscar Olivera

        by Josh Prophet on Sun Mar 21, 2004 at 01:14:01 AM PDT

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  •  Dem's P.R. (4.00 / 7)

    I'm usually saddened that Democrats don't seem any better at political advertising than Republicans. The majority of good, creative people are liberals. But I think many of them don't feel any particular affinity to Democrats and are willing to work for whoever pays the most... abd that's the Grand Old Party of the Rich, by the Rich, and For the Rich.
    Kerry's campaign has really been miserable from the beginning. He only won because America was scared to death of Howard Dean by the GOP who was trembling in fear that he'd win the primary and kill Bush (that's my take on what happened- you may disagree). So far Kerry hasn't shown me anything better than Dukakis or Gore.
    •  Actually is was only Democrats who were (4.00 / 13)

      ... scared to death of Howard Dean by the GOP who was trembling in fear that he'd win the primary and kill Bush (that's my take on what happened- you may disagree).

      DEMs have been scaring easily since 1968.  Mostly because we can't seem to articulate the difference between safety/security and real threats to it.  Then a rational course of action for real threats.  So, we live in the GOP constructed world of amorphous "threats" of "crime in the streets," "drugs," "commies," "liberals" (at one time it was unions), and "terrorists."  Completely ignoring the fact that we now spend more on prisons than higher education, have the highest incarceration rate in the industrialized world, $150 billion spent to capture Saddam when we have no national health insurance, and for over two decades have been tapping into the next generations piggybank to buy useless massive weapons.  Half of DEMs think that is a rational approach to public policy and security -- and they probably prefer GWB to a leader who thinks that our public policy is the sort of insanity that will destroy the country faster than al Queda could ever do.  

      What FDR giveth; GWB taketh away.

      by Marie on Sat Mar 20, 2004 at 12:41:49 AM PDT

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      •  hmmm scared to the right... (4.00 / 9)

        DEMs have been scaring easily since 1968.

        Yes... but I'd also say in addition to the Dems freaking over Howard, Rove planted well his single (advertised) comment at the July 4 parade.  And Dems didn't just fall for it, damn, they begged to fall to their knees in submission to his plant...
        and rather than take a simple dance school level fox trot motion away from the silliness.  From started a roll in May, reiterated it some, Rove continued the work and the summer played out.
        Hand in hand one might say...

  •  Beyond Amateurish... (4.00 / 5)

    The Flash ad is perfectly horrible. If I were the tinfoil hat type, I'd say this Chameleon Group is some kind of Repub front organization—or that there were Repub moles involved in choosing the most inept firm for the job.

    But never attribute to intelligent malice what can be more plausibly attributed to simple stupidity. And alas, the Dems have a long history of stupid media manoeuvers...

  •  Dems inconsistent (4.00 / 3)

    The Dems grouse about the Bush deficit and then complain about him cutting programs. This is inconsistent.

    Are Dems going to spend more on non-military programs?

    Are Dems going to cut the military budget?

    Are Dems going to raise taxes?

    If the Dems don't have the courage to say what they want to do, why should Americans vote for them?

    If you are interested in the politics of Proviso Township in Cook County, Illinois, visit Proviso Probe.

    by Carl Nyberg on Sat Mar 20, 2004 at 05:27:59 PM PDT

    •  Not inconsistent (none / 0)

      Are Dems going to spend more on non-military programs?

      Dems advocate more spending in areas like health care and eductation.

      Are Dems going to cut the military budget?

      I hope so.Getting us out of Iraq (in a safe and sane manner) and not continuing to fight unnecessary wars of choice (which a second Bush admin would almost certainly pursue) is a good start on reducing military expenditures, along with trimming unnecessary programs like "Star Wars".

      Are Dems going to raise taxes?

      No - Kerry advocates not making the Bush tax cuts permanent for the wealthiest (above $200,000) individuals. That plus a healthier economy (due in part to sane fiscal policy) will increase revenues and reduce the deficit. Unfortunately Bush's irresponsible economic policies and equally irresponsible foreign policy have created a situtation where it will be difficult to return to the balanced budgets of the Clinton years.

      If the Dems don't have the courage to say what they want to do, why should Americans vote for them?

      Conversely since the Dems do have the courage to say what they do, Americans should and will vote for them (provided they do a better job communicating their message than the atrocious flash which began this thread).

      I have my fears, but they do not have me - Peter Gabriel

      by badger on Sat Mar 20, 2004 at 05:43:14 PM PDT

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      •  We don't need no ... (none / 0)

        um .. education

        (not eductation)

        I have my fears, but they do not have me - Peter Gabriel

        by badger on Sat Mar 20, 2004 at 05:45:30 PM PDT

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      •  show me the numbers (none / 1)

        Is Kerry advocating withdrawal from Iraq?

        Is Kerry going to zero-out Star Wars?

        What are Kerry and the Dems going to cut from military spending?

        How much affect will not making tax cuts permanent have?

        Provide a link where Dems or Kerry explain what they will do to reduce deficits. I want to see specific cuts in spending and specific revenue increases.

        If you are interested in the politics of Proviso Township in Cook County, Illinois, visit Proviso Probe.

        by Carl Nyberg on Sat Mar 20, 2004 at 05:51:32 PM PDT

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        •  Here ya go (none / 1)

          Is Kerry advocating withdrawal from Iraq?
          Kerry  on Iraq

          Some excerpts:

          Return to the International Community and Offer a Real Partnership to Rebuild Iraq

              * Transfer Responsibility to the UN for Governance.
              * Build an International Coalition.

              * 40,000 Active-Duty Troops.

              * Relieve Pressure on Service Members.

              A Reasonable Plan and a Specific Time Table for Transferring Political Power and the Responsibility for Reconstruction to the People of Iraq

          As President, John Kerry will immediately lay out a concrete plan for the transfer of power to the Iraqi people. This plan will provide a reasonable timetable for a rapid turnover of power to Iraqi authorities.  

              Rebuild Iraqi Security Forces

          Is Kerry going to zero-out Star Wars?

          Don't know. That would be consistent with his voting record in Congress (see link below)

          What are Kerry and the Dems going to cut from military spending?

          Here's a sample of Kerry's record on military spending from someone who's apparently not an admirer of the Senator.

          A quick check didn't show anything related on his campaign website, but I think his position on this has been consistent and clear.

          How much affect will not making tax cuts permanent have?

          A lot. I'm sure there are Krugman articles on the effect the tax cuts for the wealthy have had on the defecit - something like half or more? Max Sawicky's site for one has a lot of detail on that in the archives. Brad de Long's site probably does too. It wouldn't be hard to find out what effects Kerry's position on the not renewing the tax cuts for the wealthiest would have.

          Kerry doesn't have specific numbers on his site I could find, but his general fiscal proposals are here

          I have my fears, but they do not have me - Peter Gabriel

          by badger on Sat Mar 20, 2004 at 06:25:07 PM PDT

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          •  a statement on Iraq (none / 0)

            Sounds decent.

            "There are no perfect outcomes in Iraq. The Bush administration would use these imperfections to justify a permanent occupation, which for some Bush officials, has always been a goal. (Occupying Iraq would allow these radical political-military theorists to project power into Iran, Syria and Saudi Arabia.) I will tell you that democracy in Iraq will not guarantee

            1. the US can use Iraq as a military base; or
            2. Iraq's government won't criticize Israel.
            "In fact democracy guarantees little but structures for protecting individual rights and a chance to change policy in the next election.

            "The United States should transfer governance of Iraq to the United Nations as soon as possible with the goal of holding free and fair elections and transfering sovereignty to Iraqis expeditiously."

            "This will not end our involvement in Iraq. We need to provide aid to the new government to build infrastructure. The infrastructure is necessary for Iraq to achieve its potential and sending the aid through the central gov't will give the different parts of the Iraqi body politic reason for supporting and participating in the central gov't."

            "There is no 'cheap' solution. Bush policy has put us on a course that gives us many options--all vastly expensive--with no guaranteed good outcomes."

            "I hope that be living-up to our ideals and doing the right thing we will achieve the best outcome: an independent Iraq with democratic governance that respects human rights and resists the forces that would pull Iraq toward an ethnic civil war."

            Does Kerry have the courage to say this?

            If you are interested in the politics of Proviso Township in Cook County, Illinois, visit Proviso Probe.

            by Carl Nyberg on Sat Mar 20, 2004 at 07:46:31 PM PDT

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          •  Star Wars (none / 1)

            Kerry has voted to cut funding for Star Wars.

            Is he willing to say in the debates the program is a waste and doesn't promote our security?

            If you are interested in the politics of Proviso Township in Cook County, Illinois, visit Proviso Probe.

            by Carl Nyberg on Sat Mar 20, 2004 at 07:49:21 PM PDT

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          •  how will Dems be on spending? (none / 1)

            Is it too much to expect some specific numbers out of the Kerry campaign?

            I think Dems are full of shit when they talk about balancing the budget. If Dems controlled Congress and the executive branch they'd spend lots of money on non-defense discretionary, they'd increase obligations for entitlements (eg make the prescription drug benefit much more generous), they'd engage in the slightest trimming of military spending and then repeal a little of the Bush tax cut.

            The bottom line is the Dems would do little to help the deficit in the short term while increasing the pressures to engage in deficit spending long term.

            Unless the Dems present a specific plan that shows something else, I'm assuming they'll behave in a manner consistent with their past.

            If you are interested in the politics of Proviso Township in Cook County, Illinois, visit Proviso Probe.

            by Carl Nyberg on Sat Mar 20, 2004 at 07:58:29 PM PDT

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            •  Dem past budgets (none / 0)

              If you're assuming Dems will behave consistent with their behavior the past 30 years or so, then you're assuming that there will be fiscal restraint leading to balanced budgets under a Dem administration.

              Any graph of the deficits will show you that the Carter deficits were moderate, that deficits ballooned under Reagan and Bush I, that deficits consistently decreased under Clinton to a budget in surplus when Bush II took office, and have since ballooned again under a government where the GOP controls all 3 branches.

              As to the other questions above, frankly in a campaign where Kerry is being attacked on his national security positions and the GOP contribution in the campaign is not to talk about security but to obfuscate the issue and misrepresent Kerry's position, I would hope Kerry would be reticent to come out strongly for cuts in  military budgets or programs. There's plenty of time to have that discussion (and influence it) after Kerry is elected, and Kerry's Senate record is a strong indication he'll be sympathetic.

              I have my fears, but they do not have me - Peter Gabriel

              by badger on Sat Mar 20, 2004 at 08:59:38 PM PDT

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    •  It's almost like Kerry's flip-flopping ... (none / 1)

      Completely schizophrenic over at the DNC. Great post Carl.
  •  yeah (none / 1)

    I like the litany of Bush "facts" but the
    rest of the flash ad does uhm blow, for lack of
    a better word.
  •  Major suckage (4.00 / 4)

    First, there is a deficit balloon exploding in front of the White House. Then the ad rails on and on about all of these program cuts that devastate the environment and such. But then it ends with a message about him balooning the deficit. There's some cognitive dissonance for you.

    And one other thing: The person-like shape in the yellow shirt on the right has a brown arm and a white face. That's what you might call a design faux pas.

  •  Glad to See I Wasn't the Only One... (4.00 / 2)

    You could throw money at any number of online artists (takebackthemedia.com and bushflash.com come to mind) and get a truly excellent, professional-calibre product. This thing looked like a runner-up in a JC computer art class. Since Kos has the Dems' ears in these tech matters, I hope he reams them good on this...
  •  the Flash was crap, I agree.. (none / 1)

    is this what our contributions to the DNC are buying?

    Indeed.  I was on the phone yesterday with someone at member services with the DNC (I accidentally sent through an online donation a couple times instead of once), and she remarked that the average DNC donor was over 60!  Get your message together, make it compelling and to the point, and work on the delivery, so we can start getting young people involved again.  

    •  but the average VOTER is not 60 ! (none / 1)

      I certainly hope they were not trying to appeal to their average-age donor. While that ad was used in fundraising, they must have known it would be aired on television and blogged to death, thus being an opportunity to obtain votes and not just money.

      (I know, I know...the ad appealed to no one, in any demographic. I'm grasping at straws here trying to figure out what they were thinking.)

      "This union may never be perfect, but generation after generation has shown that it can always be perfected." - Barack Obama (3.18.08)

      by lapis on Sat Mar 20, 2004 at 06:22:51 PM PDT

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      •  Theory (none / 1)

        The people in charge of this venture don't spend a lot of time on the Internet, and don't know the capabilities of current technology, and basically don't know that they should expect exponentially higher quality work for their money, however much they paid.  They think Flash animation is hugely difficult and costly to produce, and whoever did this Flash animation either 1) misled them or 2) has insider connections at the DNC, but practically no design skills, and volunteered to do it in order to pad his/her resume and/or save the DNC some cash.

        It's like non-tech-savvy people who want someone to work on their website, and think that it takes a couple hours' worth of hard work to make even minor tweaks to HTML code, like adding a couple lines of text to the page.  And given this lack of savvy, they're willing to accept poor-quality work because they think it will be prohibitively expensive to create something that doesn't suck.  This can easily be exploited, of course, though I've never done it myself - I did some website work for a professor last year, and judging from his level of knowledge in this area, I could have easily billed twice as many hours as I actually worked and still had him thinking it was a good deal.  

  •  Meanwhile (none / 0)

    Meanwhile, the RNC has...

    this.

    (Just kidding.  It's really not from the RNC.  But very well might be...)

    •  I just played it (none / 0)

      and it was quite satisfying to see all those piles of bloody terrorists that I stacked up.   Bush and Condi singlehandedly defend the White House!  

      What kind of a game could the DNC make with Kerry in it that would fit in with some theme about him being a better leader than Bush?  I just can't think of one.

  •  The balloon is OK when it's live (none / 0)

    I have a habit of going against the flow: It wasn't that bad. I mean, it was bad as a "response ad", but in its own right, it was OK, because it was taken from this actual, king size real life (TM) red balloon, put out by the blue dogs.

    I know the blue dogs aren't loved around here, but they're very much needed to hammer Bush on the deficit. There are plenty of swing voters out there who are hawkish on the deficit, or at least like to think they are.

    It is time to bring back this time-honoured tradition: We never go to war because we want to, we only go to war because we have to.

    by PoliticGeek Pro on Sat Mar 20, 2004 at 06:16:47 PM PDT

    •  It's not a question (none / 1)

      of liking them, it's a question of them doing their effing job.  I agree, the real-life balloon wasn't bad, and it was accompanied by a clear message; if they'd only done something that straightforward in the ad!  But instead, it's a combination of muddled content and hideously unprofessional presentation.

      We seek not rest but transformation. - Marge Piercy

      by Leslie in CA on Sun Mar 21, 2004 at 01:12:04 AM PDT

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  •  How do you rate ads? (3.50 / 2)

    I despise all advertizing as coarse and transparent manipulation, so I truly can't tell a good ad from a bad one. Does anyone else have a similar problem?--it's rather like being tone-deaf (the last ad I liked was for an allergy medicine, and featured hundreds of cats invading some sneezy guy's house to maliciously rub up against his furniture; I watched it twice, being fond of malicious cats).

    So it's beyond me what criteria people use to say "This is a good ad." Do you enjoy the ads yourselves and find them persuasive, or do you imagine yourself to be an undecided voter, a Reagan Dem or something? This theoretical voter is also the sort of person who doesn't turn off ads, a deviant psychology I find hard to imagine. You have to be something of a method actor to judge ads this way; I always feel I'm condescending when I try it.

    So my question is, how do you know a good ad is good? Is it purely tautological, with quality measured by results? If that's the case, then the Willie Horton and "black hands" ads were "good" and it's too soon to judge this DNC animation (which looks merely medium-appalling to me).

    •  Not an expert (4.00 / 2)

      A good ad should be attention getting, have a tone suitable to its subject (ie professional looking), a simple message (not rattling off 15 different facts in 15 seconds like this one), coherent use of graphics, on-screen text, music/sound and narration to tell the same story and reinforce the story, a consistent message format (the first half of the ad is a cutesy animation, the second half bare text listing of facts).

      Most importantly, a good political ad should be evocative and emotional. What about the flash ad engergizes you or makes you want to get up and go out and vote for Kerry right now? Nothing.

      Advertising is emotional and not rational. It's a different kind of appeal than a campaign speech, debating points or position paper.

      I have my fears, but they do not have me - Peter Gabriel

      by badger on Sat Mar 20, 2004 at 06:41:45 PM PDT

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    •  Draco... (none / 1)

      IMO, we also suffered as ours was constantly shown (on the cables, FOX showed it in its entirety over and over...) against the RNC ad - which for my money worked on all levels.  In fact, as I read your post it struck me the RNC ad worked like malicious cats ....;-)  Their ad was feline, insinuating, spritely as all hell, entrtaining and, in it's (and the cats) very personal way, goal oriented every step of the way.  
      Plus it stays absolutely on message, the message the Repubs are relentlessly driving home:  
      Define Kerry every day.
      Damn.
      •  Cats' way (none / 0)

        Their ad was feline, insinuating, spritely as all hell, ent[e]rtaining and, in it's [sic] (and the cats [sic]) very personal way, goal oriented every step of the way.  

        Its way, cats' way.  (Pig Latin?)

        Bottom line:  Goal-oriented cats.

        Defending abused, orphaned and neglected apostrophes everywhere.

        by Apostrophe Protection Society on Sun Mar 21, 2004 at 12:11:13 AM PDT

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    •  Drace, a good ad is single-focused... (4.00 / 6)

      ... and drives home a message that is likely to stick with the audience.

      A good ad also contains elements that its targeted audience will see as reflective of themselves.  (Identity)

      That Flash should be broked down into five or six different ads... perhaps thrown into individual buckets such as healthcare, employment, education, etc.

      Note how Rove and Gillespie have coordinated and executed their strategy this past week:

      1. Ad campaign on Kerry's "weaknesses" on defense and national security
      2. Full assault from every administration spokesman on the same key points.
      3. Full assault from Limbaugh, Hannity, even local wingnut radio hosts, again on the same key points.
      4. Full assault from the conservative punditocracy including David Brooks, George Will and others... all hammering on the same points.
      And this is going to go on for the next three months, with emphasis on different messages for days or weeks within that time frame.

      These guys have a plan.

      I'm still waiting to hear ours...

    •  I think people's main problem (4.00 / 3)

      with this ad is not the target audiance or how effective we think it's going to be but the fact that the animation is just poor and it looks cheap and unprofesional. I think it goes beyond being "medium-appalling" when people watch this ad, it's a representivie of the whole party tryng to convey it's ideas and with that in mind it shouldn't be anything less than the best- especially knowing how much better it could be. Plus the animation and concepts are just plain BAD-

      For starters, the crowd protesting bush is poorly drawn and they all look like they have some sort of squishy chubby disease. Plus they're poorly animated- only jerky arm waving motion. Also the whole potest crowd thing seems poorly thought out in the first place- it makes it look like only zanies who would protest Bush's poltics will be "hurt" when the deficit "explodes".

      As someone already pointed out, you can barly tell that the man in the tv insert is actually Bush. Bush is also porly animated with jerky fingerwaving motion which doesn't really make sense, and when the narrator says "that sounds like a lot of hot air to me" his voice sounds almost the same as Bush's so there's no clear distinction of a seperate voice criticizing bush.

      The explosion of the bubble was terrible- "POP"!?!?!? and 3 people kneeling there going "ouchie" ... it made my head hurt just to watch.

      I could go on with how gawd-awful it was but my other major problem is message. The statment of facts was good but who's actually going to remember all those numbers thrown at them in close secession? I know I don't and I was watching it with an eye to pay attention and criticize- think how much the average american would absorb.

      I think our problem now is we need to be on the offensive. There neds to be a theme of bush says one thing, does another- like the cutting funds for first respondrs. That could be a whole ad in itself and we need to hammer on it. The people who give their lives to protect us, that bush "honors" so much are being cut to the bone by his irresponsible fiscal policies. This ad was a start, but we need to be harsh because reality is harsh. Bush is destroying the quality of life in America, and we're not going to let him get away with it anymore.

      •  It's Deeper (none / 1)

        This ad isn't the problem; it's a symptom.  Kerry goes away on vacation and there's no one minding the store. That's kind of like W cutting brush in Crawford for a month leading up to 9/11.  These prep school boys don't seem to think they have to work.  Maybe when you've been in the minority in the Senate for ten years you get too used to feeling like nothing you do matters.

        This aggression will not stand, man.

        by kaleidescope on Sun Mar 21, 2004 at 03:03:55 AM PDT

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  •  The multimedia gap (none / 1)

    Meanwhile, this is what the republicans sent out to their supporters:

    rtsp://real.stream2you.com/rnc/mystery.rm
    (you may need to copy this and go "open url" in realOne player to get it to work)

    It's a slick, humorous attack on JFK for the "foriegn friends" thing. It's light, but damaging, and the production values are far higher than the DNC's deficit flash.

    I think it's more or less up to us to close this gap.

  •  Has the DNC seen the MoveOn ads? (4.00 / 3)

    I'm sure many of you are familiar with the MoveOn.org "Bush in 30 Seconds" ad contest. Most of the entries were better than the balloon ad. Best of all, they were free.

    If the balloon ad is any indication of how the DNC will run the 2004 campaign, John Kerry is in a world of trouble.

    John McCain's Straight Talk Express runs on fossil fuels.

    by Dump Terry McAuliffe on Sat Mar 20, 2004 at 06:48:24 PM PDT

  •  Wouldn't it be cheaper and easier (4.00 / 2)

    Just to license stuff already out there by people who are good at this, and have been doing it for a long time? Mark Fiore for instance, or Gary Trudeau (it doesn't have to be animated).
    •  Mark Fiore (none / 0)

      That was amazing, thanks for the link. I hadn't seen his stuff before.

      The DNC and the Kerry campaign really do have talented resources to tap. I know we're all embarrassed and angry, esp since the RNC came out with a great ad at the same time, but this is fixable. Hopefully the feedback they've gotten has scared some sense into them, and Kerry too. Yes, the world is watching.

      "This union may never be perfect, but generation after generation has shown that it can always be perfected." - Barack Obama (3.18.08)

      by lapis on Sat Mar 20, 2004 at 08:10:30 PM PDT

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    •  Thanks for the Fiore link (none / 0)

      I hadn't seen his work before either. Great stuff, especially Attack of the Gay Agenda and The Rovers.

      Clever signature line here.

      by Flakcatcher on Sat Mar 20, 2004 at 10:45:55 PM PDT

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    •  Fiore (none / 1)

      was the first person who came to mind when I saw the fiasco they're calling a Flash movie.  It simply could not have been worse.  I hope to hell the DNC wakes up.

      We seek not rest but transformation. - Marge Piercy

      by Leslie in CA on Sun Mar 21, 2004 at 12:45:56 AM PDT

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      •  Fiore was the first name (none / 0)

        to pop into my head re political Flash. And imotto and others are right on the money about liberal Hollywood. Most of us gorge on terrific talent in just a typical weeks' consumption of news, politics and entertainment. Hm... "Poor DNC Flash leads to answers"?
    •  Mark Fiore's own page (with archive) (none / 0)

      Mark Fiore's own page (with archive) can be found here.

      _______________________________________________

      "Those who fight might lose, those who don't fight have already lost." - Berthold Brecht

      by RavenTS on Mon Mar 22, 2004 at 08:06:04 AM PDT

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  •  Think THESE guys are responsible for bad Flash (none / 0)

    Free Range Graphics. I believe that they did the flash animations for Arianna's CA Gov bid. The Flash animations were OK...nothing to write homeabout. (Arianna's site not up anymore so you can't check them out....) but I dug up their website and they already have a cheezy flash up on the DNC site....

    http://www.freerangegraphics.com/html/insecurity.html

    I'm not going anywhere. I'm standing up, which is how one speaks in opposition in a civilized world. - Ainsley Hayes

    by jillian on Sat Mar 20, 2004 at 06:54:00 PM PDT

    •  Woah (none / 0)

      People in wheelchairs getting pushed by Bush over cliffs?  Pretty stark imagery there.

      But at least this ad has a coherent theme and sticks to it.  They didn't just throw in information at the end about cutting education spending or anything...

      Still, this one is so far over the top as to appeal to only convinced Democrats, not swing voters.

      •  however... (none / 0)

        I will say, about Free Range Graphics, that I just got their kinda cunning and cool calendar/planner called "365 Days of Regime Change" in the mail. It's a freebie when you sign up to the League of Pissed of Voters (http://www.indyvoter.org/   the org. started by Billy Wimsatt, who wrote "No More Prisons"), which is one of the initiatives to GOtTheyoungV, especially in the many flavors of the hiphop community. Gotta say, it's kind of snarky and funny, but also informative. maybe these guys are better at print than web stuff. although I actually like their site, especially the chicken.

        but I digress.

        Terri in Tokyo/AfAm4dfa

        Thanks so much - see you at Netroots Nation!

        by Terri on Sat Mar 20, 2004 at 08:48:11 PM PDT

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    •  We did Not do the ballon flash (none / 0)

      We - Free Range Graphics - would like to assure you that we did not make the ballon flash or have anything to do with it at all. We feel it could have been better...
  •  Flash Ad (3.66 / 3)

    It's crap like this that makes someone sorry to be a Democrat, and why I, personally, will continue to send the DNC any money at all. All my contributions will continue to go to Dean's new group and Kerry directly, and NOT to the so-called National Leadership, they should all go back to Jr. High.

    With all the supporters the Democrats supposedly have in Hollywood -- and we're talking the Big Daddy's of Hollywood -- how on Earth could they continue YEAR AFTER YEAR with this sort of crapola?

    I just don't understand. I could easily be convinced that the DNC is working for the Repugnants. And I'll be damned if I'll fund it.

    David Winn
    dwinn@austin.rr.com

    Thank you for your time.

    by imotto on Sat Mar 20, 2004 at 06:58:32 PM PDT

  •  And Rove is executing his '90-Day Media Strategy' (4.00 / 8)

    ... to paint Kerry into a corner.

    This article from today's NY Times details the lengths Rove and Gillespie go to to execute their detailed media and communications strategies:

    President Bush's campaign is following an aggressive and precise 90-day media strategy to define Senator John Kerry as indecisive and lacking conviction, with a coordinated blitz of advertisements, speeches and sound bites, senior campaign advisers said this week.

    The goal, several campaign aides said, is to first strip Mr. Kerry of the positive image that he carried away from the Democratic primary contests and then to define him issue by issue in their own terms before the summer vacation season. The central thrusts will be national security and taxes, they said.

    The aides said the strategy was planned weeks ago in coordination with Karl Rove, Mr. Bush's chief political aide, while Mr. Kerry was battling for his party's nomination.

    The aides are following a tight timetable, they said, and they want to have defined Mr. Kerry on their terms between now and early June, when they expect voters to stop paying close attention to politics, at least for a time. In addition, Mr. Kerry will very likely have a much larger war chest with which to fight by then, reducing the effect of the Republican media blitz.

    Do we have any such strategy in place?  If so, it certainly hasn't been publicy discussed.

    Later in the article, Kerry advisor, Bob Shrum responds:

    "The notion that you have a one-sided definition that takes hold five months before an election is ridiculous," said Bob Shrum, a senior advisor to Mr. Kerry. "I don't think the Bush campaign's caricatures are going to stand up to the reality. Voters are smarter than that."

    Mr. Shrum added that the campaign had months in which to define Mr. Kerry and critique Mr. Bush.

    Frankly, Mr. Shrum's attitude scares me.  Are we ceding the first 90 days of this campaign (pre-convention) to the Republicans just because it's early?

    That seems a bit arrogant and perhaps shortsighted.

    What this means is that Kerry (and whatever surrogates we manage to pull together in our seemingly disorganized response) will spend a great deal of the next 90 days playing defense, when we should be playing offense... and there is plenty of material to use in a coordinated offensive against the current regime.

    Once again, the Republicans are defining the issues.

    Bush has already realized anywhere from a 4-6 point swing in most polls since the Rove assault began.  What will the next 90 days bring in terms of poll performance?

    Yes, it's early.  And Bush has tons of money.  But these guys also do an excellent job of trotting out mouthpieces on message, whether that is a message-of-the-day, week or month.

    Where is our comparable list of spokespeople?  Where is out comparable list of appearances?  Where are our daily/weekly/monthly talking points?

    A truth about "marketing" is that a boiled down message, repeated ad infinitum, can become a "fact" in the public consciousnes.

    If we don;t have our won detailed and executable strategy the next 90 days, we risk having to spend our precious resources "undiong" the perception pounded into place by Rove and Company during thsi time period.

    If McAuliffe and the Kerry team have a plan, please let us know so we can help.  Rove certainly isn't shy about sharing his strategy.

    When it comes to communications strategies at the national level, I sometimes wonder if we are complacent, lazy or just incompetent.

    •  A few more adjectives (none / 1)

      When it comes to communications strategies at the national level, I sometimes wonder if we are complacent, lazy or just incompetent.

      Ignorant? Arrogant?

      I have my fears, but they do not have me - Peter Gabriel

      by badger on Sat Mar 20, 2004 at 07:13:10 PM PDT

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    •  Pivot pivot pivot.... (none / 0)

      If McAuliffe and the Kerry team have a plan, please let us know so we can help.  Rove certainly isn't shy about sharing his strategy.

      Pivotal thread, diary, and, this post in particular.

      I for one need to see sharp change and soon.  I have no bright ideas (other than study up/show up/do better, which I apply to anything lagging and in my view we are lagging badly), ...just a restless worry and a deep desire to get on with it.

    •  maybe not so bad (none / 1)

      time will tell

      Rove's MO is to make a lot of noise, play out how powerful he is and how good his strategy is.  notice how thin the article was on details, only that they had a 3 month plan.  sound like anything? war on iraq?

      also remember that Kerry plays it cool, he makes himself appear to be a straight shooter without a plan, holds his cards very close to his chest (remember the primary).  so let's not be arm chair quarter back too much.  

      repubs had a good week, but with a cost.  they brought a lot of attention to Spain and foreign opinion of Bush.  if they had taken the loss gracefully it would have been a 2 day story max.  instead they fought it hard, got some bump in the polls, but now the pundulem swings back - people are thinking about why Spain & Poland are pulling out.  

      so let's stay calm and focus on the issues, rather than nail biting and pulling Kerry down with panic.

    •  Dead On (4.00 / 3)

      First of all, my sincerest thanks to Bob Johnson for tirelessly hammering away at this point for the past several days across a number of threads.  Many of us have been trying to sound the same alarm, and Mr. Johnson has very eloquently represented our concerns in this outstanding diary entry.  Thanks also to Kos for promoting this to the front page.

      A lot of thoughtful analysis is now reflected here, so I will not repeat what I have said on this topic under other threads.  Suffice it to say that I stand fully and one hundred percent with Mr. Johnson on this.  

      We absolutely must have a well-coordinated, consistent attack every day from now until the election, and that attack must involve Democrats at every level of government.  The apparent ineptitude of the DNC in coordinating this, and the astonishingly lackadaisical attitude of Kerry's senior advisor Shrum, really scare the hell out of me.  The Republicans are clearly on top of this, and they are already out in force getting their message out over and over again.  Accordingly, anything short of an all-out blitz on our side will doom us, and the DNC, Kerry, and every other Democrat in the country had better come to terms with that reality immediately.

    •  Shrum the Chum (none / 1)

      I liked Shrum a lot as the political correspondent for New Times, but he's sucked hind teat ever since that august publication folded.  We have people like him here in California, Richie Ross comes to mind.  They're worn out but at one time could've been a contenders.  So cautious people cover their asses and hire a name, even if it's a has been.  Timorous bastards.  The Democratic Party is being run by political Willy Lomans.

      This aggression will not stand, man.

      by kaleidescope on Sun Mar 21, 2004 at 03:16:01 AM PDT

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  •  Missing a bet (4.00 / 2)

    I thik we're on the wrong track here. This feels like it was put together as a class project by a sixth or seventh grade group, with the teacher putting in a heavy hand. Maybe the "consortium" is a group of politically interested children, and provided free of charge? If so, it should be labeled as such.

    From the home of "Future Shoes."

    by mfinley98 on Sat Mar 20, 2004 at 06:58:57 PM PDT

  •  South Park (none / 1)

    Maybe a South Park take on this would be more effective/amusing.

    "I used to be disgusted, now I try to be amused..." - Elvis

    by Gearhead on Sat Mar 20, 2004 at 07:10:14 PM PDT

  •  kos... (4.00 / 7)

    please get in contact with the DNC and express our joint opinion that the Democrats are not getting the message out.  Also folks, we can go to the DNC blog and tell them how foolish they are for wasting the money on bad flash ads.  The problem with the Dem leadership, as I've said in the past, is that there really isn't any.  It's a bunch of rich guys who pretend to fight for the little guy so they can keep getting consultant work, and get to go to all the cool parties in DC.  The DNC has been working with the same consulting firms for years now, we need new blood, and that brings me back to kos, you are new blood, hopefully, with our help, you can be heard before it's too late, I really don't want to move to Canada.  

    I prefer peace Wouldn't have to have one worldly possession But essentially I'm an animal So just what do I do with all the aggression?

    by jbou on Sat Mar 20, 2004 at 07:16:37 PM PDT

  •  DO NOT Give them One Red Penny... (4.00 / 7)

    ...until they show they are worthy of support. They piss on the grass roots and hold us in contempt anyway. There is zero loyality there. We're viewed more as an enemy than a part of the winning coalition.

    Give to Move On. Give to Kerry. Give to the DCCC. DO NOT give to the DNC until they are reformed and there is a real house cleaning at the top and on down several layers. It's a waste of your hard earned money. Just look at the crap they put out and all they dont do that they should.

    Let the big rollers fund the DNC. We should fund those who advance our cause, not those who'd just as soon stuff us in a closet and lock the door.

    •  Agreed (none / 0)

      I see absolutely no reason why we should be funding unprofessional, ineffective nonsense like the DNC's flash ad, or why we should be shoveling money into the DNC's coffers when it is not performing the most basic function of developing and coordinating an effective attack.

      The work that other organizations are doing -- such as Moveon -- is, as of right now at least, much more deserving of support.  The DNC will not see any money from me until it gets its act together and starts getting our message out.

    •  My first (none / 1)

      email to them, just after watching the ad, was fairly gentle, trying to give them the benefit of the doubt, that perhaps they only intended it for fundraising among the already convinced, who would be more forgiving of its amazing badness.  But the one I just sent tears them a new one, and makes it clear they're getting no more money from me until they do a better job.

      We seek not rest but transformation. - Marge Piercy

      by Leslie in CA on Sun Mar 21, 2004 at 01:15:40 AM PDT

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  •  bothersome... (none / 0)

    I just saw the flash ad... it looks very much like someone just created it with their home computer.  There wasn't much that was disguished with the ad... very amateurish... almost like some gag you would receive from a friend over the internet.  i hope the message doesn't get lost in the presentation.

    e

  •  The Chameleon Group ... (4.00 / 4)

    I hate to be cynical but it could be a shell or front company that the DNC is pushing money into. Say somebody over there isn't happy making $50,000. Well, throw together a company, hire some amateur and collect the fees. If this was a homemade job done by a high school kid or something, I could see them showing it off. But it isn't. The Chameleon Group seems like a legit company.

    It really makes me wonder - how the hell did this get pass the briefing table? This stuff is usually gets discussed a bunch of times. If you have ever been involved in an ad/marketing discussion - whether it is politics or anything else - these things get kicked around a bit.

    And what is the message? Bush is running up the deficit but cutting social programs. Huh? The Dems are making the Bush case! You run up deficits when you spend more on social programs OR you cut social programs to fix the deficit! Either complain about the spending cuts or complain about the deficit, but you can't do them together!

    Lastly, I haven't given any money to the DNC - and I won't. But if any of you have, I would send someone an email to complain. If they realize the money spigot will run dry if they keep doing foolish things, maybe they will stop.

    •  Lets hope it is just lack of preperation (none / 1)

      You run up deficits when you spend more on social programs OR you cut social programs to fix the deficit! Either complain about the spending cuts or complain about the deficit, but you can't do them together!

       Not only are those two messages a glaring political contradiction, but there is absolutely no production continuity between that first 'deficit balloon' section and that second 'program cuts' section.  It seems obvious that they were crudely cobbled together from at least two different projects done with styles as well as messages that are a total mismatch. .  And even the sound tracks and narration of the two parts are spliced together badly and mismatched as to voices and sound quality. Absolute amateur hour stuff.  

      With all my heart I really don't want to believe that the DNC actually paid anyone for this. That would be a real scandal.  I prefer to think that  someone looking for a job donated this to the DNC and said they could use it.  And then, when the DNC started to get a lot of heat for not having any sort of plan to counteract the Rove & Co. attacks, they rummaged around for something they could put out right away in order not to appear to have been doing nothing  and --  since that was precisely what they had been doing --  this crappy  free sample was all they had.

      "Hope" has to be the watchword of our campaign to send Bush back to Crawford, and I devotedly hope that flash thing is just a sign of total lack of preparation (which can be cured with time and money -- both of which are available at this point) rather total incompetence and/or insider featherbedding (which would be a much bigger problem).

  •  can the DNC hire MoveOn's agency? (none / 0)

    I know the Bush in 30 seconds campaign was a public contest, but presumably MoveOn hired an agency to do their other stuff, like the Rumsfeld ad...

    Let's not beat up on the DNC too hard though.  Remember the ad they came up with after the Plame scandal broke- quoting GHWB saying that those who blow the cover of our secret agents are the worst kind of traitors?  That was great work on their part.

  •  Here's a nice Flash piece... (none / 0)

    Sorry if it's already been posted.

    http://www.ericblumrich.com/gta.html

    No matter how far down the wrong road you've gone, turn back.

    by Joan in Seattle on Sat Mar 20, 2004 at 08:15:58 PM PDT

    •  Wow! (none / 0)

      That is the best ad on the stolen Florida election I have ever seen!

      Who will stop this war of lies? Keith Olbermann May 23rd, 2007

      by Ed in Montana on Sun Mar 21, 2004 at 12:28:44 AM PDT

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    •  Joan in Seattle... (none / 1)

      Thanks for the link:  FANTASTIC flash ad...
      The sort of thing we should be doing... that one plays to the base (I felt anger rising as I watched it).   Our flash ads should be that good.

      I give this game only a few more weeks to whip itself into shape, then I'm gonna decide the party (at the very least) does not care about winning.  Or does not know how and is there a difference finally.

      I am sick of wondering.  If they have decided they can throw an election because entities wihtin the party are more interested in 2008, it will be the utter end for me.

    •  Take back the Media (none / 1)

      Here are a bunch of great political Flash's.  Try any one by Symbolman.

      http://www.takebackthemedia.com/flash.html